I miss the old World of Minecraft (LOCKED)
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I don't know how many people care, but I miss the old World of Minecraft. Where there was a big flatgrass map and everyone was able to see each others creations without going into someone's "Realm."

I don't know how long the Realms have been going because I haven't played in a while, but I just decided to share that. :P

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I agree, I do miss the old

I agree, I do miss the old World of Minecraft servers (there used to be 4 going at once). It was way more fun to staff too because of all the guests and it was harder.

Realms has been going since the start of this year and is special in it's own little way and is they way of the future :P

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Lol, thanks for agreeing.

Lol, thanks for agreeing.

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Agreed

i miss it too
All the flat grass was Sweet
Also i want to be a staff again
Sadface.
Or :(

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I don't remember you being

I don't remember you being staff...

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Yeah, I dont remember you

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Oooohhh nostalgia...

Even though it was fun, it was a pain to moderate for griefers.

Maybe we should add a massive freebuild to realms for certain rank+?

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I'd like to see that happen.

I'd like to see that happen.

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That sounds like it could be

That sounds like it could be pretty cool moujave.

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hmm

it would definitely be a nice addition, if the freebuild itself was like builder+ (for random grief reasons) and certain completely trusted players could be granted to admin by staff, so we can get some minor moderation going, would that be an idea?
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I would LOVE this!

I would LOVE for a massive map on Realms, just like old times. I miss it just as much as most people. Like previously stated I wouldn,t mind looking after the map for minor grief etc. I hope this does happen! :D

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maby for arch+?

maby for arch+?

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Maybe

I dont think that would be a good idea, as there are as not as many as arch+ than the rest of Realms, and it would be exclusive (just like /project) which I see as a bad thing as it is not including everyone and can be seen as elitist to some extent.

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The Old Client

Bringing this topic up makes me think back to the very old version of the World of Minecraft Client, when it was powered by a batch file... Good times.

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Sounds good!

Partly terrained area as well? I like building in pre-terrained areas sometimes.

IMO: Tech+ for one area and Arch+ for another?

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Cool! Like old times..

I would say surveyor+, reason being as builder isn't that hard to get. So it would require more effort for any new member to try to get surveyor. Anyhow, this is a great idea and I hope it happens.

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No to exclusive

I don't think that it should be exclusive to high ranks, but like ryan said, it should be available to surveyor+.

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Ya

Well, I've never experienced the "old" World of Minecraft but I guess it would be  fun  for a lot of  people, exept the ones with not high enough of a rank (me) :(

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Hence Builder+

If it was builder+ it would mean more people taking part, and even could mean that more people would play on the server, which either way is a good thing.

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But...

More griefers. Nuff said.

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Nah great idea but Ill need

Nah great idea but Ill need to get 2 million more rep :(

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/whodid

Even if there was grief, /whodid says it all, especially if it was being moderated 24/7 with active mods especially for a freebuild.

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yaa cool

That sounds good with bulder+ I'm amost there in a while!

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well........

well if this idea dose go ahead i could generate/make the terrain if that is ok with other people

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Well...

I would be interested in the creation of the freebuild, too.

I'm not too sure whether having terrain is a good thing, though. You're going to have to make sure you are ready to see it get wrecked to make way for structures and stuff. Better off generating, in my opinion. I couldn't stand to see my handmade landscape be replaced with structures. That's just my thought on the matter.
P.S Please make it themed, especially with terrain. Random pixel art doesn't go well with mountains and valleys.

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you could make multiple freebuild realms for different ranks, like 1 for builder+, 1 for surveryor+, 1 for tech+......

also, each freebuild could have a special pixel art area on one of the sides so that we are not mixing pixel art with the landscaped area

and roland, even though you can tell who griefed, it is still annoying that you have to fix it. you couldnt do a rollback because many other people will have been building in that time

although i sadly never got to experience the 'old' World of Minecraft, i think i have an idea of what it was like and i think that the freebuild realm is a really good idea

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I agree with ^^^^^^^

I agree with Jak2131. I think that there should be multiple freebuilds. Lowest rank for a freebuild, in my opinion, should be Surveyor. Then there is one for Designer, and on and on. And also like Jak, I haven't experienced the "Old" World of Minecraft. If anyone could get some nice ss's of it, I would be very appreciative to you. And about what Skyara said, I think that you should be granted to build in the freebuilds. You get granted by what you build in your realms. Like, a voting system or something. I don't care if anyone criticizes my ideas, SHNAW, but still. In my opinion, that would be one of the top ideas to collaborate on.

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yeah

the admins on the 'old' realm would look at your main realm to see what your building skills are like, they could then grant you (build) for the correct realm

then if you are judged to be a good builder, the admins could grant you advanced and you could get more privileges

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Hmm.

To bad i joined just after the new World of Minecraft happened. I would have loved to see the old World of Minecraft :( 

   I also agree with the big freebuild idea, I think it should be artist+ Or designer, Becasue they have been here a little while and know not to greif. I also like RyanKnacks idea.

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Blarg

Blarg!!! Still, I would love to see some nice screenshots of the "Old"
WoM. If anyone has some, please do share them. I dont care if you pop them onto your reply, or if you just put a URL for it.

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Lolwut

I don't remember mentioning being granted for it. But it sounds good :P

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I miss it to.

And to this post...... Me Gusta.

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Not to be rude, but you weren't really there for the Old World of Minecraft.

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....what

Freebuild -> free-build -> free building

What I think would work:
1 huge map
generated landscape
when the map is full, dump it in museum and insert a new one
builder+ freebuild
for THAT map: instead of the actions put in a per-block database, in a per-player database (also 24 hours) and an /undo <player> command.
Trusted people can be put to advanced.
you can apply for admin rights to be /grant <player> admin'd
if someone griefs when you see it: tell to stop and repair
        > if the player repairs, let it go and just warn
        > if not: /grant <player> restrict
if someone griefs without being seen and the player is offline at that moment:
> /undo <player>
>/grant <player> restricted
if the grief is major, the admins can report it to a staff member and the player might be restricted serverwide
if an ADMIN griefs, long restrictions and maybe bans (or reputation bills?) will ensue.
 
I felt lyke typing a lot, so here it is :D
Have a WoMderful day!
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Take some notes from other freebuilds, we use a rank system to seperate user levels for each level.
I wouldn't say generated landscape is any good for a freebuild (personal experience). You need more than just a 'undo', you need a museum for previous level saves, and a block informatiom cmd (/about on MCForge/lawl)
All of this would work better on a seperate server imo.

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uhm

I already mentioned the museum, and we have /whodid.

also, the old World of Minecraft servers were freebuild, terrained

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What is being said is that many want the old World of Minecraft back. So by that what is meant is that we want the old freebuild back. World of Minecraft had all of the above cmd and systems.

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idea

mabey as  well as having a new freebuild we could add like a museum remembering the old World of Minecraft, people could go there if they wanted to see what is was like or how much it's improved.

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There is a museum

There is a museum command that takes you to the old World of Minecraft Map Dumps

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Um

So is there gonna be a World of Minecraft:Main type freebuild or what?

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Idk if this has been brought up yet but I just skimmed through the posts as there are many. What would be the point of this? Just host your own freebuild realm and it won't be much different.

But yeah I'd go with the idea of a big freebuild realm event or something.

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it may seem like a silly idea

it may seem like a silly idea to some1 who hasnt experienced World of Minecraft:main of some form, as for hosting you own freebuild its just not the same

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Agreed

^^^

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I would go with artist+

I would go with artist+

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i agree with myself^^^Lol i

i agree with myself^^^

Lol i was on the wrong account.

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guys, as I already stated

remember the old World of Minecraft: Main?

everyone who became a member could build
so it's a freebuild
I'd rather check on grief a lot more
than getting sad looks and maybe even more repfarming

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I completely agree.

Kevin is right. A freebuild for everyone who is member, with the same layout as old World of Minecraft:Main with guest area for guests. Then a massive landscaped area with walls around it for pixel art etc. Pretty much, just like World of Minecraft:Main. Also, there could be a new moderating system put in that those trusted would be put to admin for mini-moderating of the map so the moderators would not constantly have to deal with the grief etc of the map.

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Omg

Omg, Roland, that post felt like someone just punched me with a fistful of nostalgia D; I miss it! Lol, I might sound gay, but I sometimes had a friend come over and we'd play on the same account on different computers (before Notch fixed it to know one person was already playing) and we'd stay up all night drinking sweet tea. xD It was fun. Nothing but Minecraft.

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What if...

What if you just got rid of realms and went back to old World of Minecraft because you are going downhill right now, you really need to change something haha. Ever since i left i've checked this like once every month and theres been less and less people on. js

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Lol, Realms is doing fine. As

Lol, Realms is doing fine. As long as there are still people playing it will most likely still stay up. You also need to take into account that you could be checking at different times in the day which may lead to your results as inaccurate.

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Swag

:O

been some time bro.
we went downhill for some time, like 40 people on at america times.
we're getting back now, about 100-110 on at that same time
I do have to say that the :Main would get (back) a lot more players
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I agree

Well, I was around for World of Minecraft: Main but I only went on it once, my brother and his friends used to play it a little and it looked pretty good, I completely agree with Kevin that a freebuild is only a freebuild if everyone is actually free to build. Maybe you could introduce a little bit of a rank system area by making a bit of a World of Minecraft: Realms system, where you can choose to build with people of your own rank, I agree this would bring a lot of grief, but hey, as much as it is annoying, classic and freebuild come hand in hand! After all, I'm not condoning grief at all but the map would have to be reset pretty often anyway as people love building huge structures that fill huge areas of the map in freebuilds which of course is completely allowed, so people shouldn't be too sentimental with their creations, once you've had fun building it, let it go! I also feel World of Minecraft should introduce more servers than World of Minecraft: Main, though I'm not expecting it all at once, maybe a zombie survival, or lava survival? Or maybe we could think of something completely new? After all there are a lot of freebuilds already out there and one of the main reasons World of Minecraft: Realms is so successful is because it has something different that gives it the edge over every other server, and we should continue that. If World of Minecraft: Main was to return it would of course need a lot more OPs, so you could maybe introduce a system like Blocktopia for example, they have Trusted, OP, VetOP and Head Controllers which could work pretty well, you could maybe introduce a system like I think you used to where players that felt they were trusted and ready could apply for ranks which always make players that aren't even ranks be a little more mature as everyone is wanting to become ranked. Maybe you could think about it?

Thanks, dhall10

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Ok

I see your point, haha. Just trying to reconnect with the idea that Daniel brought up. Ever since realms came up I could not connect with anyone on a large scale, even though there is multiple areas to see others and see their creations ect.... There is no base for anything, and after a certain period of time, it just becomes somewhat useless. I still know what you mean Lunick :)


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i know i know!!!!!!

how about you just bring back a different server with the ranks transferred (simple programming) and let surveyor + build and a different map for different ranks to prevent higher ranks building on the lower rank maps. You could also implement the idea of a completely different rank system just for the fun of it and have a site like World of Minecraft realms

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A freebuild is for everyone to build. k. What this post is about how people want the old World of Minecraft back eg World of Minecraft:Main. Not a different server where it is surv+. World of Minecraft:Main is what is wanted back.

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hmm

One thing i have experienced with World of Minecraft:Realms.
For new players og young players, it can be difficult for them to figure out how the system works, but that can be because they don't read things or just a bit young to understand, most learn it fast.
It was easier with the old system. I don't say that i want the old World of Minecraft back, but i miss it of course :)
The rep/rank hysteria takes of sometimes, i don't like that.
I have to say that Realms was a pretty good idea:) I like that we can have a own map to build on.
About the freebuild idea. I dont see the point, bacause the server is already a freebuild :) I dislike the /freebuild options. Open for all to build makes it griefers paradise.
The best thing about Realms is that you have to grant ppl to build on your realm. Old World of Minecraft had to be moderated almost all the time, and and that was a lot of work.

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hmmmm....

Hmmm. First off, If you guys all remember how main worked, you could have areas protected if you asked a moderator/admin. Secondly, Obviously the guest area is going to get griefed as it's not protected. Thirdly, Realms is better, and more efficient to run/handle compared to the old main software.  I agree it would be nice to have one massive freebuild realm, but I think I would prefer realms over main considering it was just annoying to handle things on the old software. And keep in mind, developing realms was probably not easy, so I hope we are all appreciative of what the owners have done to develop World of Minecraft:Realms.

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on second thought

Most of us know that classic will most likely be hidden on nov 11th...
To be honest, I think a :Main inspired CREATIVE server is the best idea right now.
Of course, moderation will be a lot more needed.
But, we are World of Minecraft, why shouldn't we be able to do this?
Yes, the start will be a little hard and chaotic, but with classic not populated anymore, the SMP will have to be free to enter/signup required.
I think we can and *should* do this, yet this is not mine to decide.
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yes. We should have a smp

yes. We should have a smp server.

edit: what happened to artful and fulart? They used to be on like 20/7

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We have an SMP server... smp.womjr.com

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Before I lock this thread....

I have spoken with triddin about this, we are going to work something out. However; I have an idea as you all make some valid points. My only concern is finding the time and the right moderators to help police it.

I'm not saying it will be done this week, but I hope we can implement it sooner, rather than later.