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Have you guys had any problems with the new cuboid hack that has been floating around?
In the timeframe of 2 hours, on my server, Canadian Multiworlds, I had around 20 of these idiots pop in and use this cuboid hack to make gigantic cuboids to engulf buildings, despite being of the Guest rank (MCSharp, guests cannot use cuboid).
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A user from TheColony server, posted about this cuboid hack on the official Minecraft forums. The post is located here:
http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=12516
However, many members of the forum simply tried to brush it off as being unimportant, etc, etc. Some of them also appear to have no knowledge on this hack whatsoever.
An example is this quote from the thread: "I don't know your exact situation, but make sure verify-names is on,
otherwise hackers can do close to anything." Verify names has nothing to do with this.
Another example was the ever-arrogant LG_Legacy's response: "It's probably just MCTunnel, a new griefing client. I don't think that
was cuboid." - Of course he doesn't think it's cuboid, he's an idiot. I'd love to have him personally join my server, and wait for one of these idiots to pop in and cuboid-flood half my map so I can say "Does it look like cuboid now?!"
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My main question is, does the World of Minecraft server software have a system built in to prevent this cuboid hack? If so, could you kindly travel to day7tech.com, go to their forums and post a copy of your prevent system, if it exists, so that the MCSharp devs can add it in?
These idiots are becoming a pain in the ass for us MCSharp users (as well as the users of whatever other custom server softwares are vulnerable to this).
I was constantly restoring backups because these idiots targetted well-built buildings.
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On the plus side, I did notice something similar between all 20 or so cuboid hackers. They all spawned FLOATING. Myself and some of my World of Minecraft-client-using members tried to make ourselves spawn floating, but alas, it doesn't work that way. So there's a key give-away to the users using this hack. If they spawn floating, kick them immediately.
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We gave you a warning because
A) You flaming LG_Legacy had nothing to contribute to the conversation.
B) LG_Legacy is a friend of World of Minecraft, and flaming anyone isn't good.
This is twice now I've seen you post whining about LG. I don't know what he did to you, but this isn't the place to vent your rage.
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My main question is, does the World of Minecraft
server software have a system built in to prevent this cuboid hack? If
so, could you kindly travel to day7tech.com, go to their forums and post
a copy of your prevent system, if it exists, so that the MCSharp devs
can add it in?
All World of Minecraft code is closed source. You won't get any code pertaining to World of Minecraft, including the "prevent system". Sorry.
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"All World of Minecraft code is closed source. You won't get any code pertaining to World of Minecraft,
including the "prevent system". Sorry."
This kinda pisses me off to be frankly honest with you guys. You guys most obviously have a system in place to prevent this crap, yet you claim your server is "closed source" and thus, you will not be helping the community out by sending the "prevention system" coding to the Devs of MCSharp/Hyve/LuaCraft/what-have-you.
It also seems to me that, after piecing a few things together, that you guys prefer to keep your servers relatively grief free, and despite your claims of liking to help the community or whatever it is you guys do besides hosting a Griefer-sh*tlist and creating the first MC hack client, you don't care about the rest of the Minecraft community, i.e., all the other custom server owners who have to put up with this cuboid hack/d***-spam hack sh*t.
"LG_Legacy is a friend of World of Minecraft, and flaming anyone isn't good."
I don't know what problems Apv had with LG_Legacy, but it seems that from what I've seen in his posts on the official Minecraft forums, he's either stuck up and snobby to people for no reason, or he just dismisses claims very quickly.
A good example is the quote I posted above from LG_Legacy.
"I don't think it's cuboid"
Well here's problem #1. He doesn't think. And honestly, I don't care if he's a "friend" of World of Minecraft or World of Minecraft's butt-buddy. And yes, I know either I'm gonna get a warning for saying that, or one of the admins is going to claim it wasn't "helpful to the conversation", but that's my 2 cents. He obviously has not had the pleasurable experience of several griefers coming in and using this cuboid hack on his server. And until he does, I'd suggest he not join any discussions about the cuboid hack, as he's, from what I've seen, had no experience with this.
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This kinda pisses me off to be frankly honest with you guys. You guys most obviously have a system in place to prevent this crap, yet you claim your server is "closed source" and thus, you will not be helping the community out by sending the "prevention system" coding to the Devs of MCSharp/Hyve/LuaCraft/what-have-you.
1). You wrote to the wrong people - if you have issues with custom server software you should write to the authors/developers of the software and report the bug/problem - we are not supposed to interfere in someone else's work.
2). Almost every custom server is written in a different programming language - it's not that simple to copy and paste a "prevention system" or any feature we have to another software. BTW: I think we don't even have any special "cuboid prevention system". In my opinion this "hack" use some kind of bug in MCSharp software, but I don't know this case, I don't know MCSharp so I could be wrong.
3). Our software is not public for a couple of good reasons - and we are not going to release our source code just because someone has a problem with another custom server.
4). I have no idea exactly what problem you have and what is its cause - believe me - if we knew a solution for your problem we would probably tell you what's wrong and how to fix it.
5). We care about the rest of Minecraft community but we are not a institution that solves any problem.
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It's a hack that works on (to public knowledge) every server.
It allows Guests (who on MCSharp do not have access to cuboid (or /draw as it's known on MinerCPP) to make giant cuboids to flood entire maps.
With it they can erase an entire map in mere seconds with a cuboid air style hack. Or they can lag a server so hard it crashes depending on how big the main map is, and how big a cuboid they do.
So as far as I know, not even you, the mighty World of Minecraft are protected from this. But I may be wrong.
And I noticed something that triddin said in another thread I posted in:
"We used to promote open hacks.
We used to
not have a heartbeat check
We got major burnage from the MC community. I'm not talking like people
complaining, I'm talking about continual attacks, people hacking our
server. DDoS attacks. The whole lot."
Well guess what, due to various lil problems with World of Minecraft, such as your griefer list, and how you guys do not put people who use YOUR client to grief non-World of Minecraft servers on there, and this whole cuboid hack fiasco (and not providing any help to the devs of other custom servers, if they were to request it), you might get more burnage.
So I hope you're starting to see that maybe you and the other head guys around here should huddle up and maybe discuss some changes to the way you operate.
S'all I gotta say.
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It's a hack that works on (to public knowledge) every server.
It allows Guests (who on MCSharp do not have access to cuboid (or /draw as it's known on MinerCPP) to make giant cuboids to flood entire maps.
Well - looks like a serious problem, but I have one question - how exactly could it work on every server? I'm just curious because I think not all servers have the "cuboid" feature and rank system (for example default servers, CMSS and many others). If this "hack" really works on EVERY server then it's not cuboid and it has to be some sort of protocol bug and you should talk about it directly to Notch. You say World of Minecraft is protected from this - I say who knows? Maybe just no one tried to use it on World of Minecraft before.
BTW: Has anyone except you reported this problem before? D3? The Archives? Chariot's? Victory?
Well guess what, due to various lil problems with World of Minecraft, such as your griefer list, and how you guys do not put people who use YOUR client to grief non-World of Minecraft servers on there, and this whole cuboid hack fiasco (and not providing any help to the devs of other custom servers, if they were to request it), you might get more burnage.
So far no developers have asked us for any help in solving the problem you write about.
Please tell me what we should do in your opinion if we NEVER experienced this issue. We don't know what is the cause of it, and all information we have about this comes only from your post.
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I figured it out and I came to your server to show you what the problem is and how to handle it, but of course nobody listened to what I had to say - moreover some people were rude towards me.
It's easy to blame and insult World of Minecraft, but when we actualy take the time to help you people solve problems... No comment. I slowly start to get used it.
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Hold on, if you said
It's a hack that works on (to public
knowledge) every server.
and then said
So as far as I
know, not even you, the mighty World of Minecraft are protected from
this.
then how do you expect us to
post a copy of your prevent system, if it
exists, so that the MCSharp devs can add it in?
We clearly told
you we didn't have a prevent system open to the public, and you start
this huge thing. Why this is? As you said, we may or may not (who knows?) even have a prevent system. They've not gone on our servers, so we have no way of knowing if we do or not. How can we give you something we may not have?
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Quite playing dumb! You say you may not have this. That's total bull. You're just trying to soften your lie. You do have one but you want to make us believe you don't because you guys are selfish and don't even care about the majority. You're more concerned about your up tight group of World of Minecraft server admins that you could care less about us. I mean, we're paying for the game, the least you could do is give somethings that can help us!!!!
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What the majority has done for World of Minecraft? Nothing - except a constant hatred. In fact no one did anything to World of Minecraft.
We can rip off our veins working for the good of the majority, and no one will even take effort to thank us.
We are not selfish - we are TIRED. Minecraft community is selfish, full of pride and hate and when we try to do something always meet with hostility.
Do not ask what World of Minecraft can do for you, do something for World of Minecraft - only then you will have the right to demand anything.
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We do not have a system to protect us from these cuboid hacks. What you are probably basing your theory that we do have protection off of, is that you never see it happen on our servers.
The reason you don't see it on our servers is because World of Minecraft is written in a completely different way compared to other custom servers, so the people who develop these hacks, have to write it specially for World of Minecraft to work, or find a work around. And yes, MCTunnel does work on World of Minecraft, but you have to change some things for it to work, which is why you never see it happen on our servers, not to mention that we can easily undo their actions, so people who take the time to make it work on World of Minecraft servers, see no point to the hack as it doesn't affect us in any way.
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the main reason why World of Minecraft wont give away is source code is to prevent hacking it and im damn agreeing whith it THEY managed to create a code is is working perfecly and protect US builder and artist you wanna build something that will last so if they give the code away then a hacker see it hell be able to modify it then hack all World of Minecraft server and WE DO NOT WANT THIS TO HAPPEN! so we are sorry but if theys say they cant help you its cause they cant so either rework another code or next time be polite when they try to help you
sorry i had to say it
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Becareful what you say about LG, I got a warning email about being mean to him.
But I agree with your sentence describing him 1000%